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Tuesday, May 13, 2014

Samsung UE65HU8500: Samsung gets its 4k curved groove on

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At the Consumer Electronic Show in Las Vegas Samsung boldly claimed that the future of TV is curved, and now it's putting its money where its mouth is by building its flagship TV series for 2014, the 4K-resolution HU8500 range, around a curved screen
On the 65-inch HU8500 model we find on our test benches the curve is very much in evidence. The screen clearly bends away from you, creating a distinctive and attractive profile that's sure to have plenty of shelf appeal in this year's TV style wars.
The curved screen and Ultra HD resolution are far from the set's only attractions, though. Also important is the compatibility of the UE65HU8500's new external connections box with the UHD-friendly HDMI 2.0 standard, the H.265 compression standard being used by Netflix for its upcoming 4K streams, and the new HDCP copyright protection system.
Plus there's a helpfully tweaked version of Samsung's renowned smart TV platform, a new QuadCore Plus processing system and a new remote which introduces 'point and click' functionality to Samsung TVs for the first time.
The UE65HU8500 arrives a few weeks ahead of upcoming new UHD/4K rivals from the likes of Sony and Panasonic, so we can't yet draw any comparisons with those models. But we'll certainly be looking for improvements over both Samsung's own F9000 UHD models from last year, as well as other stand-out UHD TVs like the Sony 65X9005A, LG 65LA970W, Toshiba 65L9363, and Panasonic L65WT600.
Samsung curve
The curve brings more positives than negatives, which is a pleasant surprise

Design

While there are some controversial aspects to introducing curved screens to the 'flat' TV market, nobody can deny that the way the 65HU8500 curves gently backwards makes for a very attractive and distinctive design.
The frame around the curved screen is fairly, if not spectacularly, slim and quite nicely finished in gloss black. Build quality is a little more plasticky when viewed up close than you'd expected from a £4k Samsung TV, but the main thing is that its slimness leaves you feeling like the picture is the main attraction, rather than the screen that's producing it.
One point worth raising here is that, while many people may feel instantly attracted by the curved design, it's not conducive to wall hanging. The way the edges of the screen obviously curve away from the wall looks slightly awkward.
Samsung UE65HU8500
You're not going to get the UE65HU8500 flat against the wall

Features

There are three main strands to the 65HU8500's feature assault. First, there's the curved design we've just discussed. Second, it's got a native UHD resolution. And third, it sports Samsung's latest Smart TV system.
The first two of these are more or less self-explanatory, though we'll quickly remind you that UHD resolution is 3840x2160 pixels, leading to four times as many pixels as you get in a full HD 1920x1080 TV.
There's plenty to talk about regarding Samsung's new Smart TV platform though, even if it doesn't look all that new when you first open it up.
The opening TV hub screen is more or less identical to the one Samsung used last year, and again you can scroll across to four other hubs. But look closer and there are some substantial changes to be found.
Samsung on demand
Catch up on the latest films and TV shows in Samsung's stylish on demand menu

Smart features

The most obvious one is the ditching of last year's seldom-used 'social' hub screen in favour of a Game hub, carrying links to the games available via Samsung's online portal. The social stuff (YouTube channels, Twitter etc) has been moved to the hub menu devoted to you own content (such as multimedia stored on USB sticks or networked computers).
As with last year's Samsung smart TV system, the first TV hub can be used to show recommendations culled from the TV listings, based on an analysis of your previous viewing habits.
Another hub page is built around on-demand content from a wide range of providers – including Netflix and Lovefilm/Amazon Prime. The fifth hub is essentially a Samsung's App 'store' showing you what apps you already have installed. It also provides access to many, many more you can download from Samsung's servers to the TV's built-in memory if they pique your interest.
The 65HU8500 introduces a handy and cool-looking new multi-window tool that can divide the screen into four square segments, each containing a different source. We've seen picture in picture before of course, but the possibilities opened up by having four windows rather than two are startling. Especially as you could run the internet in one while watching different sources in the others.
Samsung UE65HU8500
The extra processing power makes all the difference

Football crazy

Also new for 2014 – with the World Cup in Brazil looming large – is a Football mode. This adjusts the picture settings to optimise the way the beautiful game looks onscreen. It also implements a nifty system whereby the TV can analyse crowd noise to spot game highlights that it can then automatically record to USB drive!
Elsewhere there have been some significant changes to the ways you can navigate Samsung's latest smart TV system. This includes being able to use your finger (rather than your whole hand as was the case last year) for navigating the onscreen menus.
There is a much more effective smart phone/tablet control app and a new remote control that offers point and click functionality, as well as the track pad system Samsung has supported with previous remote designs.
The UE65HU8500 has a hugely extensive suite of picture set up tools, including full colour and gamma management. It also supports local dimming from its edge LED lighting system, part of which includes Samsung's Cinema Black feature.
This controls and individually handles the lights that correspond with the black bars above and below 2.35:1-ratio films, to stop them becoming distractingly 'infected' with light bleeding from the main part of the picture.

Big brain

Samsung claims that the UE65HU8500's Quad Core Plus processing brain can work twice as fast with Smart TV functions or picture processing systems as the most powerful engine from its 2013 TV range.
This has potentially huge implications for a UHD set, given that currently such TVs have to spend the vast majority of their time using processing to upscale HD and standard definition content to the screen's UHD panel.
The extra processing power could also have profound implications on the effectiveness of other key processing elements like the local dimming system, the dynamic contrast system and the set's motion processing engine. The intriguing new processing system Samsung has developed to make sources a better fit for the screen curve will also benefit from the extra power.
You can't turn this part of the processing off, which may alarm purists, but hopefully it won't throw up any significant problems.

3D present and correct

Although it's not the core feature it once was, the UE65HU8500 still carries 3D playback, with two pairs of active shutter 3D glasses provided free with the TV.
Since this is an active 3D system, its 3D pictures will be scaled to UHD, rather than the essentially full HD resolution delivered by UHD 3D TVs that use the passive 3D system.
As with last year's Samsung UHD TVs, the UE65HU8500 ships with an external connections box. This box also contains the TV's processing brains, making it possible to upgrade to a new one in the future, allowing your TV to keep up with the latest connection and processing power developments.
In fact, people who bought one of last year's UHD TVs from Samsung will be able to replace their connections box with one of the new ones created for the HU8500 series. This gives them immediate access to things like the HDMI 2.0 ports, the H.265 compatibility and Samsung's latest Smart features.
This sort of future proofing feels more invaluable than ever before, given how fast the TV world is changing.
One last point to cover before getting stuck into the UE65HU8500's picture performance is its audio. Traditionally a weak point of Samsung's TVs, the brand has tried to improve things by equipping the set with a duct system that runs along the TV's rear and gives the speaker 'air' more room to breathe.

Picture Quality
Not surprisingly, we want to kick this section off by looking at the impact of the UE65HU8500's curved screen. Specifically, is it really 'made for one' rather than a family-friendly technology?
It's all about viewing angles. A long-held fear is that using a curved screen will make the picture uncomfortable to watch for anyone not sat in the perfect place - directly in front of, and at exactly the right distance from, the TV.
But due in part to the fact that the curve isn't actually very severe, the viewing 'sweet spot' issue isn't nearly as limiting as you may have feared. In fact, in some ways the UE65HU8500 actually supports off-axis viewing better than Samsung's flat TVs.
The thing is that the new panel Samsung has created for its curved LED debut loses no colour saturation or contrast, even when viewed from as much as 35 degrees either side of directly opposite.
That means that anyone who's watching the TV from within a 70-degree arc will get perfect colour and contrast. Whereas moving even slightly off axis with Samsung's flat TVs in the past has tended to cause at least parts of the screen to lose colour saturation and contrast.

Geometry

The 35-degree either side situation also applies to the UE65HU8500's picture geometry. Stay within the 70-degree safe arc and you don't feel like the curve is messing up the image's geometry.
It's true that the benefits of the curve diminish the further off axis your viewing angle gets, but crucially the curve doesn't actually start to cause distracting geometry problems until you get past 35 degrees either way. This means the UE65HU8500 supports a much wider acceptable seating area than you'd expected, especially if your room is quite large and you're not sat too close to the screen.
It's worth saying that the effective viewing area would be reduced with a smaller curved screen, so the advantages of curving a screen will likely diminish as the screen sizes get smaller. But nonetheless, the fear that curved TVs might only support one or two viewing positions is largely unfounded.

The curve isn't evil

If you're paying attention you'll have noticed that the word 'benefits' was used a moment ago when discussing the curve. The use of a curved screen can actually enhance the viewing experience, creating a feeling of being more immersed in the pictures you're watching.
This is chiefly thanks to the way it creates a greater sense of depth, and gives you the impression that some of the picture information is wrapping around into your peripheral vision, just like the real world does.
This extra sense of immersion from the curve is a subtle effect for sure, but it is definitely there. We suspect it's being increased by the work of Samsung's depth enhancement processing. The depth boosting aspect of the curve is, as you might expect, particularly obvious and handy when you're watching 3D sources.

Curve issues

While it's fair to say the UE65HU8500's curve has left a much better taste in my mouth than expected, it's not without its issues. Get outside the 70-degree viewing arc discussed previously and the image does start to become tiring to watch, as your brain tries to compensate for the way the image distorts at this angle.
Get far enough down the TV's side and you even start to see the frame of the TV curling across in front of some of the picture, which clearly isn't a great thing...
However, the bigger problem is the effect the curve has on reflections. If you happen to have a bright light source opposite the screen the curve can cause the reflection of this light to stretch across further than would be the case with a flat image. Occasionally the curve can even cause a double reflection.
To be fair, the UE65HU8500's screen structure does a much better job of 'soaking up' light reflections than previous curved demo units. And the reflection problem doesn't tend to be an issue with general sunlight and downlighting; it just happens when a light source is directly across from the screen. If your living room set up is likely to give you such a potential reflection, then you may need to stick with a flat TV or do something to adjust your room layout.
TV Menu
The TV menu looks great, but that light reflection does not

Native UHD playback

Moving on from the pros and cons of the curve, next under the microscope is the UE65HU8500's UHD resolution. It is a joy to behold.
Native UHD content looks mesmerising. The quadruple resolution is beautifully expressed, creating images of stunning density, gorgeous detail, spectacular realism, immaculate colour blending and enhanced depth. The extra detail allows objects to be resolved further into the distance than normal HD screens can manage.
The 65-inch screen is easily big enough to make the UHD advantage over HD blatantly obvious. Though the UHD advantage is obvious on pretty much any size of screen.
The UE65HU8500's native UHD pictures actually look even crisper and cleaner than those of its 2013 UHD sets, thanks to a number of key improvements to the general image quality.
The most immediately obvious step forward comes with colour, as Samsung's new panel and 'PurColor' colour processing engine combine to produce a much more dynamic and subtly distinguished colour range. Having so much more colour range to work with does wonders in making the extra detail in the image look even more precise.

Contrast

Also boosting UHD picture quality is the TV's outstanding contrast performance. Samsung has long had a knack for getting deeper black levels out of LED LCD TVs than most rivals. It's taken this prowess further than ever before with the UE65HU8500.
Provided you reduce the set's backlight setting to around eight or nine (unless you're viewing in a very bright room), dark scenes benefit from black colours that really do look black. More importantly where the screen's UHD technology is concerned, the UE65HU8500's black level response is so effortlessly achieved that even the darkest corners of an image contain impressive amounts of subtle greyscale/shadow detail information, enhancing the image's UHD appearance.
There's UHD-enhancing improvement, too, from the UE65HU8500's motion processing. The extra processing power within the UE65HU8500 means you can now use the motion processing system to take away LCD's usual motion blur, without pictures exhibiting the usual nasty unwanted processing side effects.

4K sources ahoy?

At this point it needs to be stressed that our tests of the set's native UHD abilities had to be made using the same compilation of demo content we used last year. There's still no readily available native UHD content out there that normal consumers can get their hands on.
This situation is soon going to change (a bit), thanks to Netflix launching its 4K streaming services (to anyone with a 15Mbps broadband connection). Samsung are also launching a 4K server for use with its TVs, containing five pre-loaded movies and allowing download of up to 50 more over the year ahead.
Nonetheless, it remains the case that for some time to come the UE65HU8500 will be spending the majority of its time upscaling HD rather than playing native UHD. So it's great to discover that the UE65HU8500's upscaling is nothing short of outstanding.

4K upscaling

Samsung's UHD upscaling was impressive enough last year but, presumably as a result of the extra processing power now available, the UE65HU8500 takes things to a whole new level. Its genius lies in the way it manages to add huge amounts of detail and clarity to HD images without exaggerating source noise or making the image look too gritty.
There is still clearly see a quality difference between upscaled HD and native UHD content. But the gap is smaller than it has been before, making the UE65HU8500 a new upscaling benchmark.

3D

Donning a pair of the 3D glasses provided with the TV and powering through Gravity and The Hobbit on 3D Blu-ray continues – mostly - the picture quality love-in. The extra detail of the upscaled UHD 3D images is palpable compared with passive 3D images, and this extra resolution makes the 3D world feel more realistic and immersive.
The screen's superb contrast helps enhance the depth of the 3D picture too, and the enhanced motion processing really comes into its own with 3D. This allows you to use the motion system on a high enough setting to greatly reduce the screen's native 3D judder without the image falling prey to many distracting artefacts.
The UE65HU8500's 3D efforts aren't flawless, however. For starters the 3D picture preset pushes the backlight too hard, leading to signs of backlight clouding in dark areas. I'd recommend reducing the backlight level until such clouding disappears.
The presets also set the sharpness level of 3D pictures too high, resulting in some over-stressed details and edges. So again, nudge down the sharpness until this flaw becomes less aggressive.
The final, less easy to defeat, problem with 3D images is some slight interference from crosstalk ghosting. But this is seldom aggressive enough to be truly distracting, and resolution fans will likely consider it a tolerable price to pay for the extra resolution delivered by the active 3D upscaling.

Input lag

There's one more general picture quality concern that needs to be reported: slightly high input lag. Even using its Game preset mode it takes the UE65HU8500 around 62ms to reproduce pictures after receiving picture data at its inputs. This is around double what I'd like to see (and double what you'd usually see from Samsung TVs), and as such has the potential to marginally damage your performance with reaction based video games.

Usability

Samsung has made some quite major improvements to the control options of its new generation of TVs.
The most significant is the new remote control, which introduces a welcome 'point and click' option to proceedings that was missing from previous Samsung remote generations. This point and click feature isn't quite as intuitive or accurate as the one provided by LG's Magic Remotes, but it's certainly a welcome addition to the user system 'pot'.
The new remote also features a very sensitive touch pad designed to allow accurate movement of the onscreen cursor just by moving your thumb gently over it. While the buttons around the edges of the touch pad permit more conventional button-press cursor movements.
Providing so many functions on the new remote can lead to a bit of confusion initially, as an awful lot of functionality is compressed into a very small physical area. Overall, though, the new smart remote is a definite improvement over the previous one.
Samsung EU65HU8500 remote
The small remote looks great, but will lost in the sofa cushion

Gesture control

Also improved is the gesture control system. Previously made hard to use by the simple fatigue induced by having to wave your hands around, this time the system is sensitive enough to respond to just finger movements. It's still not a system I personally found myself using often, but it's good to know it's there for those occasions where the remotes have disappeared down the sofa.
As a final interface option there's voice control. The main positive of this function is perhaps the way it allows you to input text into search fields, rather than its use as a means of menu navigation. But if you take the time to go through the tutorial and experiment a bit, the voice control system can provide you with a few useful content-finding shortcuts.
When add the high presentation values of the onscreen menus to the proceedings it's clear that Samsung has again pushed the boat out in trying to develop a truly next-generation, smart-friendly operating system.
Ironically the sheer weight of options available can initially feel rather overwhelming and frustrating. But stick at it and you'll soon find what controls work best for accessing different features.

Sound

While there's a decent chance a TV as high-end as the UE65HU8500 will be partnered with an external sound system, it's still nice to find that the built-in speakers are capable of producing a really excellent audio performance by TV standards.
The set can hit high volume levels without the cabinet rattling or phutting, and it's also got a much more expansive dynamic range than we usually hear from integrated TV audio systems. This extends to some credible bass at one end of the audio spectrum to bright, natural trebles at the other. The mid-range between is wide and open enough to keep voices convincing and provide plenty of the sort of subtle effects and details that bring good soundtracks alive.
That Samsung has managed to achieve this from a down- rather than front-firing speaker system makes is seriously impressive.

Value

Obviously the UE65HU8500's £4,000 asking price means it's hardly a mainstream proposition. However, it's a whole £1,000 cheaper than the equivalent model from last year's UHD range, despite all the improvements and additions it carries. And it seems to me that a 20% price reduction for a new technology in the space of a few months is a pretty fair rate of price erosion.
It will certainly be interesting to see if Samsung's UHD rivals are able to be so aggressive with the prices of their UHD TVs in the coming weeks and months.

Source
Techradar Samsung UE65HU8500 Reviews (Design 4.5/5, Features 5/5, Usability 4/5, Performance 5/5, Value 4.5/5)
Official Website

Where to Buy
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EUR 3.949,00 Amazon Televisor Samsung UE65HU8500 curvo 4k
EUR 5.538,00 Amazon UE65HU8500 65 LED UHD CURVO SA
EUR 3.999,98 Directtvs Samsung UE65HU8500 65 Inch 4K Ultra HD 3D Curved LED TV

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